{"id":334,"date":"2009-01-10T17:08:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-10T11:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/radhikand.wordpress.com\/2009\/01\/10\/what-goes-around-comes-around"},"modified":"2009-01-10T17:08:00","modified_gmt":"2009-01-10T11:38:00","slug":"what-goes-around-comes-around","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/what-goes-around-comes-around\/","title":{"rendered":"What goes around, comes around"},"content":{"rendered":"<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align:justify;\">\n<div align=\"justify\"><a style=\"clear:left;float:left;margin-bottom:1em;margin-right:1em;\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/599px-yugas-ages-based-on-sri-yukteswar1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"border:0;margin-left:10px;margin-right:10px;\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/599px-yugas-ages-based-on-sri-yukteswar1.png?w=300\" width=\"300\" height=\"301\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<p>This blog entry has been long overdue, since November last year, when I listened to <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"John Anthony West\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jawest.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"facebook\">John Anthony West<\/a>\u2019s (JAW, for short) PhoenixFire show, episode 8, <a href=\"http:\/\/jawphoenixfire.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/phoenixfire-8.html\" target=\"_blank\">Consider the Kaliyuga<\/a>. However, I wanted to write a well thought piece and so I didn&#8217;t rush into it. I read his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.grahamhancock.com\/forum\/WestJA2.php?p=1\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a> by the same title on Graham Hancock\u2019s website. Among other things, JAW reminds us of his favourite belief that progress is not linear. Progress does not go, in his own words, \u201cfrom dumb, primitive caveman to smart old us, with our weapons of mass destruction and bobble-head dolls.\u201d To support this, he gives the example of Plato\u2019s concept of \u2018Cyclic life\u2019 and the even more elaborately explained \u2018Yuga\u2019 concept in Hindu <a title=\"Lost treasures of ancient\u00a0India\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2009\/03\/01\/lost-treasures-of-ancient-india\/\" target=\"_blank\">Vedic<\/a> literature. I agree with this form of life and progress\/regress myself and do not believe that we are the first advanced human civilisation this planet has \u201cendured\u201d. You will find this opinion mentioned in few of my other blog entries as well. Human race has reached the pinnacle of progress and then has tumbled off the throne at least once, if not more times, before. As JAW points out, almost every civilisation has legends of ancestors who were more progressed, materialistically and spiritually, than us. Up until recently we have called them a myth, a fantastic invention of some innovative mind etc. only because we were never progressed enough to grasp the ideas in those stories. Only when we exploded our first atomic bomb did we realise that one such bomb, <a title=\"The Other Side Of Planet\u00a0X\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2008\/10\/28\/the-other-side-of-planet-x\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brahmastra<\/a>, was used in epic war of Mahaabhaarat. Only when we ourselves fly around the globe in 747s and A380s do we understand that the <a title=\"Sunday Spotlight: Ye olde\u00a0technology\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2009\/05\/17\/sunday-spotlight-ye-olde-technology\/\" target=\"_blank\">flying machines<\/a> appearing in legends worldwide can actually be manufactured and used. These are only couple examples that should help us open our minds and consider the myths and legends more rationally. And, more importantly, not think of us as the most progressed <i>homo sapiens\u00a0<\/i>ever.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<p>As illustrated in JAW\u2019s audio show and his article, ancient Hindu philosophy measures the time in \u2018Yuga\u2019, age or epoch. There are 4 different Yuga, each characterised by a virtue that is accorded the highest value in each one.\u00a0<i>(Source: Wikipedia, text in [ ] mine.)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Krita \/ Satya Yuga:<\/b> Dhyana (meditation). In the highest yuga, the great majority of people can experience spirituality by direct intuitive realization of truth. The veil between the material and the transcendent realms becomes almost transparent. It is a period free from any kind of unhappiness or misery. [Plato\u2019s Golden age]<br \/>\n<b>Treta Yuga:<\/b> Yadnya (sacrifice). The Treta Yuga is the mental age. Mental power is harnessed and men are in power. There are inventions that dissolve the illusion of time. Clairvoyance and telepathy are common skills. [Plato\u2019s Silver age]<br \/>\n<b>Dwapar Yuga:<\/b> Archana (worship). In the Dwapar Yuga, science flourishes, people experience the spiritual in terms of subtle energies and rational choices, inventions are abundant, particularly those that dissolve the illusion of distance (between people and between things), and power is mostly in the hands of women. [Plato\u2019s Bronze age]<br \/>\n<b>Kali Yuga:<\/b> Daana (alms). In the lowest epoch, Kali Yuga, most people are aware only of the physical aspects of existence. The predominant emphasis of living is material survival, and power is mostly in the hands of men. [Plato\u2019s Iron age]<\/div>\n<p>The occurrence of these Yuga best makes sense when considered as illustrated in the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Yugas-Ages-based-on-Sri-Yukteswar.png\">figure<\/a> at the top which depicts the ideas of Sri Yukteswar. There is some dispute over the time scale of each of the Yuga, the one in Hindu scriptures requiring <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Yugas.png\">4.3 million years<\/a> for one cycle to finish. Sri Yukteswar revised these estimates to 24000 years in total and JAW feels these are more agreeable. I\u2019m not going to comment on which time scale is correct though I feel the original 4.3 million year one is way too long based on the rate of progress\/regress of modern humans in last few thousand years. I keep typing \u2018progress\/regress\u2019 because that is a relative term and also it will depend on which Yuga we are in right now, which will be clear in some time. The cycle of progress\/regress should, logically, go like this: <i>Krita\/Satya (descending half) \u2192 descending Treta \u2192 descending Dwapar \u2192 descending Kali \u2192 ascending Kali \u2192 ascending Dwapar \u2192 ascending Treta \u2192 Krita<\/i><i>\/Satya<\/i><i>\u00a0(ascending half)<\/i> &#8230;.. and this continues to cycle. So now based on the \u201cdefinitions and characteristics\u201d of the various Yuga mentioned earlier, below is my interpretation of what could be happening,<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In <b>descending half of Krita\/Satya<\/b>, a great majority of people can experience spirituality by direct intuitive realization of truth. But the spiritual consciousness decreases over time. The veil between the material and the transcendent realms, which was almost transparent, becomes less so. Communication and experience are still possible through mental power, physical aspect is redundant. It is a period free from any kind of unhappiness or misery.<\/li>\n<li>In <b>descending Treta<\/b>, the spiritual consciousness is about 75% of that in Krita [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.harekrishnatemple.com\/bhakta\/chapter19.html\">source here<\/a>]. But mental power can still be harnessed and men are in power. Clairvoyance and telepathy are common skills. But the veil between the material and the transcendent realms thickens. People lean towards reuse of various inventions that allow physical transcendence of time and space.<\/li>\n<li>In <b>descending Dvapara<\/b>, people experience the spiritual only in terms of subtle energies and rational choices and spiritual consciousness is reduced to 50% of Krita [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.harekrishnatemple.com\/bhakta\/chapter19.html\">source here<\/a>]. Scientific and technological regress makes lifestyle more materialistic. Some knowledge is lost and science and technology become limited to 3-d of space instead of <a title=\"Are there more\u00a0dimensions?\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2009\/01\/31\/are-there-more-dimensions\/\" target=\"_blank\">4-d of space and time<\/a> in Treta. People become more warlike. It is definitely not a period free from unhappiness or misery as in Krita and Treta.<\/li>\n<li>In the lowest epoch, <b>Kali Yuga<\/b>, most people are aware only of the physical aspects of existence. The predominant emphasis of living is <a title=\"S.O.S. \u2026 for\u00a0ourselves\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2009\/01\/07\/s-o-s-for-ourselves\/\" target=\"_blank\">material survival<\/a>, and power is mostly in the hands of men. Spiritual consciousness is reduced to 25% of Krita [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.harekrishnatemple.com\/bhakta\/chapter19.html\">source here<\/a>]. In descending Kali, whatever remains of scientific and technological knowledge is lost, people are forced to adopt primitive lifestyle, that of cavemen or hunter-gatherers. There are some signs of \u201creligion\u201d in form of rituals whose meaning has been long lost. Then the march of progress begins again, with the ascending half of Kali, which is probably what we know as \u201chistory\u201d today.<\/li>\n<li>In <b>ascending Dwapar<\/b>, science flourishes, inventions are abundant, particularly those that dissolve the illusion of distance (between people and between things). People experience the spiritual in terms of subtle energies and rational choices and power is mostly in the hands of women. I feel that we are on verge of going into the ascending Dwapar now. Or in fact, it looks like not whole of the human race makes the transition all at once. Some sections of the society and some nations are already showing signs of being well and truly into ascending Dwapar but majority of the world population is still struggling in Kali. May be it always happens that some lead the way and rest follow, which can only be logical reflecting on our history so far.<\/li>\n<li>The <b>ascending Treta <\/b>is the mental age. Mental power is harnessed and men are in power. There are inventions that dissolve the illusion of time. Clairvoyance and telepathy are common skills. People become more peace-loving as the ability to transcend time and space makes warring over anything futile. We are obviously yet to reach this stage but we do have examples of such inventions and skills in legends and mythology, which might be from the descending Treta. It is plenty clear that we will only be able to grasp the features of a given Yuga (descending, in the past) when we ascend back to it.<\/li>\n<li>In the <b>ascending half of Krita\/Satya<\/b>, the highest yuga, a great majority of people acquire ability to experience spirituality by direct intuitive realization of truth. The veil between the material and the transcendent realms becomes almost transparent. It is a period free from any kind of unhappiness or misery.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If we think of life on this planet in such cyclical manner, so many things become clearer. Myths do not seem like myths anymore. According to the article in <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Yuga\">Wikipedia<\/a>, \u201cInventions are characteristic of both Dwapar and Treta yuga. Temples, wars, and writing are hallmarks of Dwapar and Kali yugas. In the higher ages (Treta and Krita\/Satya), writing is unnecessary because people communicate directly by thought. Temples are unnecessary because people feel the omnipresence of God. Wars are rare but they do occur.\u201d So then does it not make sense that the <a title=\"Forbidden\u00a0Archaeology\" href=\"http:\/\/radiance-coaching.com\/2008\/10\/07\/forbidden-archaeology\/\" target=\"_blank\">archaeological finds<\/a> are never those indicating very highly sophisticated societies? If things that can be \u201cfound\u201d tens of thousands of years later are made only in Kali and Dwapar yuga, how will we ever see an evidence for a society that has attained Treta or Krita\/Satya yuga progress? If such finds are a rarity that is only logical! And if they get classified as <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Out-of-place_artifact\">OOParts<\/a> that just shows our lack of understanding of the history of human race and the manner in which life has continued on this planet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This blog entry has been long overdue, since November last year, when I listened to&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,7,11,24,31,46,54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-334","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ancient-knowledge","category-archaeology","category-blog","category-future","category-india","category-science","category-unconventional","has-comment-form"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/334","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=334"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/334\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=334"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=334"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/radiance-holistic.com.au\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=334"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}